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Hello Mr. Faruk Eren ÇIRACIOĞLU,I have a moment today to elaborate slightly on some of the concepts I have presented to you.
I want to discuss dimensions in more detail.
First, the foundation is most important, and what interests me is your starting with a point which is moving.
You have said this;
"At 0th dimension, there is nothing but a dimensionless point. No length, no width, no thickness. There is nowhere to go. How will
it be possible to add movement into a 0d environment?"This my new friend, is a most excellent question upon wish to build a foundation. The foundation is critical, for whatever we build upon an faulty foundation, will itself be faulty.
How is it possible to add movement to a 0d environment? 0d which in my words I would call "void" or emptiness without form.
You come to the conclusion, that circular motion or spin is the key, and here you are most certainly correct.
However, you then consider it is a point, which spins, and this is where I would disagree. You see, as I mentioned in a previous email, there is nothing without motion, motion is all we need. It is the spin of the nothingness, which leads to the point. There is no need for a point, in the beginning, nor even at all.
The rotation, the motion, the spin, can be the dimension, is the definition. A point, is not real, only motion, only field of motion, field of force.
A swirl, a vortex in the void, in the emptiness, is one form of existence, which I equate to a dimension of reality.
I should clarify, when I speak of a dimension, I do not necessarily mean the linear dimensions of euclidean geometery. Yes, the up/down, left/right, and front back or xyz, are dimensions, and as you are able to observer right now, are an important part or defining part of our reality. However, there is more to dimensionality, or the definition of dimensions, that lines, and surfaces, and volumes. When we limit our understanding of dimensions to these Euclidean, geometric constraints, we will fail to grasp the reality of the situation.
How many dimensions, does spin occur in? We can say, it is a planar rotation, but realize, a plane does not really exist in reality. Consider the surface of the Earth, which appears to the average man, as a plane flat surface, when the reality is the Earth is sphere. But not only a sphere, a sphere rotating or spinning in space. And not only spinning in space, but rotating around the Sun, which itself is spinning, and traveling through space. And the Sun is rotating around the center of the Galaxy, which may in turn be following its own course through space. Not only this, the atoms which make up the man, standing on the surface, are in motion themselves, and the sub-atomic particles, called the electron and proton are too in complex motion. So can we really think in terms, of a straight line and apply a Euclidean, geometric constraint, to such a complex motion, of which we cannot know the starting path, nor the ending path?
So you see, we cannot define a point, per say, an origin or a start. Our definition, and better yet our dimensions, must be "dynamic" and themselves in motion( in a manner of speaking ). We cannot fix a point, we must instead always be aware of the motion. The motion itself, which becomes spin, which becomes the vortex, which becomes the concentration of space, these are the dimensions.
I have drawn an image some time ago, and it was drawn to make it easier to visualize the dimensions in our Universe, but I realize now, this image is an illusion or only a snapshot, of the reality, which cannot be so easily defined. However, this drawing does help one see, how we can start from void, and then have a dimension of black and white( or polarity ), which in turn can lead to more complex combinations. Yet each combination or extension, still contains the polarity or ( black and white). Much like the ancient concept of the Yin and Yang, of which there is a three dimensional version, which is likely a much more accurate visualization of the workings of the Universe, than our current scientists would like to believe.
One more quick note, we can have boundaries in a limitless infinite existence, as we have the sphere of the Earth, the sphere of the sun, the galactic spiral and also the rock, the atom, the electron. However, these limits are very relative to the observer and depend greatly on the scale to which the observer can see. We cannot see, atoms, nor really see the extent of the galaxy. Nor can we see that which moves very very slow, or that which moves very very fast. The limit, it seems, is the observer, no? What exists, if there is no "one" to observe its existence? Again, do not dismiss the importance of "LIFE ITSELF", that was what held back my understanding the most, my fallacy.
I hope this gives you continued food for thought, on your exploration.
Grant Hayman
http://support.ovaltech.ca
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Dear Mr. Grant,
Hello Mr. Faruk Eren ÇIRACIOĞLU,I have a moment today to elaborate slightly on some of the concepts I have presented to you.
I want to discuss dimensions in more detail.
First, the foundation is most important, and what interests me is your starting with a point which is moving.
You have said this;
"At 0th dimension, there is nothing but a dimensionless point. No length, no width, no thickness. There is nowhere to go. How will
it be possible to add movement into a 0d environment?"This my new friend, is a most excellent question upon wish to build a foundation. The foundation is critical, for whatever we build upon an faulty foundation, will itself be faulty.
How is it possible to add movement to a 0d environment? 0d which in my words I would call "void" or emptiness without form.
You come to the conclusion, that circular motion or spin is the key, and here you are most certainly correct.
However, you then consider it is a point, which spins, and this is where I would disagree. You see, as I mentioned in a previous email, there is nothing without motion, motion is all we need. It is the spin of the nothingness, which leads to the point. There is no need for a point, in the beginning, nor even at all.
The rotation, the motion, the spin, can be the dimension, is the definition. A point, is not real, only motion, only field of motion, field of force.
A swirl, a vortex in the void, in the emptiness, is one form of existence, which I equate to a dimension of reality.
I should clarify, when I speak of a dimension, I do not necessarily mean the linear dimensions of euclidean geometery. Yes, the up/down, left/right, and front back or xyz, are dimensions, and as you are able to observer right now, are an important part or defining part of our reality. However, there is more to dimensionality, or the definition of dimensions, that lines, and surfaces, and volumes. When we limit our understanding of dimensions to these Euclidean, geometric constraints, we will fail to grasp the reality of the situation.
How many dimensions, does spin occur in? We can say, it is a planar rotation, but realize, a plane does not really exist in reality. Consider the surface of the Earth, which appears to the average man, as a plane flat surface, when the reality is the Earth is sphere. But not only a sphere, a sphere rotating or spinning in space. And not only spinning in space, but rotating around the Sun, which itself is spinning, and traveling through space. And the Sun is rotating around the center of the Galaxy, which may in turn be following its own course through space. Not only this, the atoms which make up the man, standing on the surface, are in motion themselves, and the sub-atomic particles, called the electron and proton are too in complex motion. So can we really think in terms, of a straight line and apply a Euclidean, geometric constraint, to such a complex motion, of which we cannot know the starting path, nor the ending path?
So you see, we cannot define a point, per say, an origin or a start. Our definition, and better yet our dimensions, must be "dynamic" and themselves in motion( in a manner of speaking ). We cannot fix a point, we must instead always be aware of the motion. The motion itself, which becomes spin, which becomes the vortex, which becomes the concentration of space, these are the dimensions.
I have drawn an image some time ago, and it was drawn to make it easier to visualize the dimensions in our Universe, but I realize now, this image is an illusion or only a snapshot, of the reality, which cannot be so easily defined. However, this drawing does help one see, how we can start from void, and then have a dimension of black and white( or polarity ), which in turn can lead to more complex combinations. Yet each combination or extension, still contains the polarity or ( black and white). Much like the ancient concept of the Yin and Yang, of which there is a three dimensional version, which is likely a much more accurate visualization of the workings of the Universe, than our current scientists would like to believe.
One more quick note, we can have boundaries in a limitless infinite existence, as we have the sphere of the Earth, the sphere of the sun, the galactic spiral and also the rock, the atom, the electron. However, these limits are very relative to the observer and depend greatly on the scale to which the observer can see. We cannot see, atoms, nor really see the extent of the galaxy. Nor can we see that which moves very very slow, or that which moves very very fast. The limit, it seems, is the observer, no? What exists, if there is no "one" to observe its existence? Again, do not dismiss the importance of "LIFE ITSELF", that was what held back my understanding the most, my fallacy.
I hope this gives you continued food for thought, on your exploration.
Grant Hayman
http://support.ovaltech.ca
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Dear Mr. Grant,
You have seen the weak points in my theory which possibly will prevent me from moving further or will lead me to wrong turns and you have sent some back ups for help. Which is exactly what I was planning to ask from you but had some hesitations. Excellent. Appreciated very much.
My hesitation was not that you would return my request down. You would probably try to explain me everything you know about the universe if I had asked from you. But you also probably know that it is pointless unless I grasp the meanings of all the details on my own. Even this much of information that you have sent in your mail requires me to relate to them first in order to proceed which I couldnt do at first sight. If you try to give all the details at once, it will probably mean not more than quantum mechanics to me which I don't get most.
Our brains are mysterious. They are amazing problem solvers. Don't know how they get them but they are learning to use different tools of logic during their lifetimes. There are many different tools created and used during their life journey by different people. But amazingly, if they are used in a proper way, they have the potential to reach the same answers by approaching to problems from many different directions Probably you understood the subject and well known to you but want to share with you some examples which have amazed me.
First example is from fantastic Mr. Feynman. In this little story he is talking about a small experiment that he and his colleague professor did in their university and billiantly they came to know the big differences behind the way our logic works even when the most basic processes are involved (https://www.youtube.com/
A good example of this is another video. The day after I started to understand the dimensions and thinking about that there shall be infinite numbers of them, I have decided to search the internet about what people think about this infinite number of dimensions idea. This video (https://www.youtube.com/
I guess I could make my point clear. Unless it fits into my way of thinking, I know that any information may not mean anything to me even if they are the most precious ones. You have noticed that I was looking for a plane to spin my point on and I was trying to spin it like an object from its center but at the same time I have accepted it like it doesn't have one which contains a contradiction. Therefore I understand the value of the clues that you gave and will try to adopt it into my logic. The clue that you gave about not be limited with Euclidean geometry is not good news for me. This is where I believe I am strong to imagine about. That could be understood since I am a mechanical engineer :)
It is also very good to hear that we can finally get rid of our little point which its existence was disturbing me. Starting from our 3d space time, going down to that dimensionless place, everything was made of motion and existence of that point was bothering me. Now with pure motion, I believe it is a more beautiful universe.
One thing I would like to ask despite the things I have mentioned above. I feel that I am close to start understanding the nature of matter or gravity but nothing close to the concept of energy is visible on the horizon for me. Is the energy a concept that I must accept which exist in the universe since the beginning, or same like that I could find a logic about the nature of dimensions, I will be able to find a way to emerge the energy concept at one point? This is a big question to me recently.
I was planning to write a short one this time but it again happened to be a bit long. Better finish now.
As a last word, you can find the link of my first blog post below which is based on the first emails of me and you about the dimensions. Just wanted to inform you. Planning to continue posting the following ones when I have time. It is not a fancy blog but I like the simple interfaces more.
Kindest Regards,
F.Eren Çıracıoğlu
