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Dear Mr. Grant,
Dear Mr. Grant,
I am really happy to see your reply. Now I am a bit more relaxed to see that there is someone else who agrees with these thoughts. There are not many people around me to share them and you can understand my suffering when it is not possible to share it with someone when you are that much excited and think that you have found something precious.
Also thank you for your wise words and warnings about the dangers in this process. I can really understand and feel it time to time. After starting to realize these things and while going deeper, I feel this disconnection from the things around me. I leave the things away that I was most enjoying before and only wanted to continue thinking to find more answers. Trying to imagine and discover those new things was becoming the most pleasurable thing for me while my mind is being pushed to its imagination limits. Doing other things like taking my phone and checking social media or playing games, watching TV were becoming pointless while the best game was being played in my mind. Therefore, I can easily guess that these are dangerous waters and going beyond certain limits can cause harm to me.
While I was trying to understand the nature of the dimensions, I was aware of that this wasn’t going to explain everything. There were many things like mass, energy, gravity which were not introduced to this dimensions theory. I was only crazy happy for finding an answer to explain many things at once just like the way a good movie explains us many missing points in its final scene.
After figuring out that adding one more speed (or time) component to our new dimension is letting us to move in higher dimension and understanding that it was applicable to all other dimensions, I was so happy that I might have been too quick to jump to the conclusion of that, this means universe should have infinite number of dimensions. Later on, I have seen some signs that there can be a limit to that. First of all, speed being numerically finite was telling that to me. (Speed to have a limit in our universe didn’t make sense to me before finding things out and still doesn’t. But I feel that I may find the answer soon.) Now, many things are pointing out spin, rotation and circles to me and I believe that this has something to do with the speed to have limit. As you have many times repeated; something finite yet with no borders.
I wonder if the speed has the same numerical limit in one higher dimension. One part of me says yes. If the higher dimension is nothing but only another perpendicular spatial plane in 5D universe, it should not be different. But one part of me says possible. If the acceleration is the way to travel in the new dimension direction for us, what is the speed limit in this higher dimension, which is equal to the maximum allowed acceleration in our space-time? I am coming back to universal acceleration limit in our space-time. This acceleration limit certainly is equal to the speed limit of 5D universe and just like the reflection of motion between x-t, v-t, a-t diagrams; it may also be carried into upper dimension as the derivative of the one in our space-time. If that’s true, then it might be decreasing by its root after raising into the next dimension (or must be increasing? I am really lost, yet). After writing to you about why there are still talking about 11 dimensions, I thought about the idea above and had that ridiculous thougt. What happens if I take the 11th root of speed limit? The result has shocked me for a brief moment of time. It was 299.792,458^(1/11)= 3.14697136491which is very near to Pi. For that brief moment I said, what if our universe is in the form of a circle at the last level of dimensions. Then I thought; that what is the significance of speed limit to be in the units of kilometer per second. If I took it in miles per hour, I would reach nowhere. And if our space-time is 4 dimensional, I need 7 more dimensions to go up to 11th, not 11 more. Therefore, taking the 11th root doesn’t mean anything. Anyway, it is probably a nice coincidence and I just wanted to share it with you for fun. Nevertheless, I still believe and feel that speed of light to be limited will show itself to me somewhere as a reflection of our current figure. I also feel that all these numbers like Pi, golden ratio, gravitational, Coulombs, Planck’s constants and many others will be a result of having such a limit and somehow connected. Hope I can find a way to understand that in future.
Another thing which was telling me that the number of dimensions might be limited is our most famous formula; E=mc2. Since I could understood the true nature of dimensions, now this formula is giving even more clues about the mass and energy equivalence. Matter and energy is equal at different dimensions. It needs an acceleration equal to the light speed for energy to appear as matter in the higher dimension. But the formula says the otherwise. m=E/c2. Which means to me, this accelerating form (energy) in the higher dimension, appears as matter in our dimension. Still couldn’t figure out which way it is. My mind tells me the first thing is more logical while the formula says the other way round. Anyway, this is also a question which shall be replied for me in future. Let’s go back to where I left of in my last e-mail and I try to explain you in which point I am now.
As you have described, I was on the top of a mountain, knowing that there were many other concepts waiting to be discovered standing away from me as the other peaks of the nearby mountains without disturbing me, yet. It didn’t take long for me to be disturbed by the nearest one though. About 1 day later, I have noticed that I cannot find a way out of this problem: If the new dimension consists of infinite number of time frames standing on top of each other, how come 2 objects with different speeds can crash with each other doesn’t matter what their speeds and directions are. In my way of thinking about dimensions, higher speed is standing at the higher levels of new dimension direction. Therefore, 2 different objects with different speeds should not meet if you look it that way. Of course this was a very wrong way of thinking and it was also a result of matter (or objects let’s say) was not being introduced into my new way of thinking. Trying to find a way to this problem, showed me the necessity to imagine what an object is and how can it be described within the dimensions which were constructed in the way I think.
As usual, first I have tried to find solutions based on the things that I already know. A 3 dimensional object in our space-time has a z axis. This axis is also equals to one of the directions of a constantly accelerating object in a lower level (space-time with 2 spatial dimensions. (After understanding the nature of dimensions, calling any dimension as spatial doesn’t feel right to me. But it can be very difficult and confusing to explain in my new way so I will keep calling them as spatial when necessary, hope it is reasonable.)) So I have tried to imagine it in the simplest form of a 3d object. An object which is made on only 2 time frames making it 2 time frame thick in z axis, like 2 papers with no thickness, standing on top of each other, creating our 3d object as below. (I showed some gaps between them in order to be able to explain but normally this gap doesn’t exist.)
Now I have many problems to solve. Existence of such an object in 3 dimensions requires many conditions in 2 dimensional space-time to be met:
1. 2 objects in 2 dimensional space-time to move at very close but different speed rates in the same direction in order to be located on different time frames on top of each other due to time dilation like this:
While they are moving at different speed rates, they shall be bound to each other. There should be a connection between them while their distance increases due to their different speed rates or despite their different speeds, their distance shall not be changed (sounds like impossible).
2. In order to create the layers of a motionless object in 3d space-time, They shall keep moving in 2d space-time but at the same time, they should maintain their position, as well, so that our 3d object is motionless (sounds impossible, too).
3. And probably, the most difficult of all; they shall exist at the same location in 2d space-time, which is sounds like against the nature. 2 different objects shall not be able to occupy the same space doesn’t matter how many dimensions there are.
My first reaction to these impossible kind of requirements was as expected: How can 2 different objects shall move with different speeds but keep their distance, how can they move but stay at the same location and how can they exist at the same location while all of these things are happening? This boggled my mind for a while. Finally I found answers to some of them:
The biggest mistake I did was to think about linear movement when I was looking for an answer to all of these things. Don’t remember how, but I had same type of enlightening moment when I have figured out that the circular movements like the one below were answering some of these questions:
As long as the ratio between R1 and R2 is equal to the ratio between V1 and V2, these 2 objects will move in the same direction with different speeds and keep their distance from each other like they are bound to each other. This meets the first requirement. And also meets the second one partially. Partially, because the second requirement says they shall maintain their position even if they move. In our case, they don’t exactly keep their location but also they don’t completely go away. Running in circles around a center. If they have enough speed (probably equal or very near to the speed of light but let’s call it enough speed for the moment.) they will occupy 2 layers in 3D as a little cylinder with a radius of R3. But there are many other problems with that. Let’s neglect the centrifugal force saying that our objects don’t have any mass yet so it is not applicable. Even then we have a problem; from center point till the end of the last object, every point will experience a different time dilation since the speed they experience will be different, not only V1 and V2. At low velocities, this difference can be neglect able but I was talking about very high velocities which means that it is not neglect able. Our 3D object created with this principle will probably look like a hollow reverse cone having R3 radius at the top circle. Something like that:
As you can see, it is not made of 2 layers anymore, since all the points on my 2d objects have experienced different time dilations, creating many different layers. But the thickness of the hollow cone is still 1 time frame. Making this object basically a 2d shape, curved in 3d space-time (Hmm. A curve in space-time. Sounds familiar. Shall have a look at that later, if I can use this principle somewhere in future.) This wasn’t the 3d object which I was trying to make in 3d space-time.
Now, this result is telling me that it is not possible to make this shape starting from 2d space-time. Any 2d objects having width and depth, will cause different time dilations on different points of the objects when they are being rotated. Spinning one object around its own center was coming to me as a solution but where will be my 2nd object located in order to give the thickness of the second frame. And also, as long as the object is a 2d shape with a length and width, this will give the same result of having different time dilations on different points of the object while it spins.
All these thoughts were yelling at me to go down to the lower levels. To 1d space-time or even deeper, to 0d space-time. A place where everything begins. Nothing exists but a point and speed. There was nothing much to do and it was a place where I wasn’t very good at imagining.
When I have tried to imagine the movement in 0d+t, I have realized that I didn’t give it enough thought when I made my simple equations in my previous mail to go up to the next dimension from a lower one just by adding movement. At 0th dimension, there is nothing but a dimensionless point. No length, no width, no thickness. There is nowhere to go. How will it be possible to add movement into a 0d environment? It didn’t take long to realize that the only possible movement in that dimension was the spin of the point. It is really hard to imagine a point with no length and width. Every time when I try to spin it in my mind, I was looking for a center to spin around and a plane to draw my point on. I have tried to imagine it like a pixel on the screen as the smallest component of my screen. Didn’t work out either. So, I have just accepted as it is. I had an object, which could spin around its own center and not having any time dilation at any point of its own since there was no other point than itself. I have also accepted that it has one certain direction of spin and an axis. This axis will then become our x axis. The first spatial dimension.
I could finally make my point spin. Now I could continue to solve my problems. Or can I? Without adding my second object into our 0d space-time, I cannot. And since our 0d space-time is only 1 point big, there is no place to fit another point in. I have nothing but a point which is permitted to spin on its own axis and rest of the universe basically, doesn't exist. So I gave up looking for a second object and looked at what I could do to fulfill our requirements with 1 object only.
The only thing I was permitted wasn’t only spinning with a constant speed. I could also speed up the spinning speed; acceleration. As I have explained in my previous mail, this will result in moving in between the layer of a higher dimension. If our point is constantly speeding up and down its spin rate, it will experience many different time dilations. Resulting as a 0d point going up and down on a line in 1d space-time during this acceleration and deceleration process. This will take place only once and then only a still point will remain in 1d space-time. In order to create a 1d object in 1d space-time, It should constantly repeat the process of acceleration and deceleration very rapidly. So rapidly that no other point or line in 1 dimensional universe can go into its acceleration and deceleration limits. I tried to explain this process with below sketches:
If it can repeat this process very very frequently, it should appear in 1d space-time like this as a line only with length and with no thickness or diameter. The thickness shown here is just for easier sight. Imagine below circles as dots:
Repeats with enough frequence (shall I call this as the frequency of this object?), these stacked dots on top of each other shall appear as 1 continous line in 1d space-time.
There I have my first 1d object. Showing its glorious length to all 1d space-time universe.
As expected, after reaching to this new mountain peak, it brings many other mountain peaks into my sight. I guess the limitations that you have mentioned in your e-mail, starts from the creation of this first 1d object. I don’t know the exact limits yet but I can guess that the length of the line will depend on the duration and rate of the spin acceleration. Having speed or acceleration on this acceleration shall have effects on even higher dimensions than the 1d space-time considering my dimension theory. Also, there is the question of if it can interact with the other objects created with the same way and if it can, how? And above all, there is the big question. What is causing our 0d point to spin? What is the meaning of the energy in this universe? What is it made of and where did it come from?
The complete explanations of matter and gravity are still missing, as well. Maybe, if I continue from this 1d object, I can reach them. I will try to carry on. But that’s enough for now. I can feel that my processor is getting over heated.
Before I finish, I would like to mention one more thing. I have a blog where I very rarely publish posts about the things that I find interesting in Turkish and sometimes in English (http://yakinsak-blog.
Kindest Regards,
Faruk Eren Çıracıoğlu
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Hello Mr. Faruk Eren ÇIRACIOĞLU,You are welcome to publish anything of which we speak. I do not have any problem with you posting our discussion.
Your insight that speed and more importantly acceleration are key's to understand the nature of things, is good.
You are right to consider spin as a fundamental, for we must realize that spin and even vibration (as a sine wave and rotation are closely related ) are motion and acceleration, without linear movement per say. Motion in place. Indeed, starships of the future may move, without moving, without any speed as we currently understand with rockets and cars. To the observer watching such a starship, it would just disappear only to reappear to some other observer in some far off location.
That is we can have acceleration and "movement" through a higher dimension ( 5th or 6th ), which appears to violate the speed of light in lower dimensions, as we have mass which was in one place and then another, faster than light could traverse the same distance, linearly through space.
I wish I could better explain the number of dimensions, but do not have time right now. To make things easier, just realize at most you need 6 dimensions, with a 7th dimension which is essentially void. So you only need to really comprehend 2 more dimensions besides the 4 of which you are familiar. And as we discussed the 5th is related to mass. So really only 1 dimension is missing. The concept of 11 dimensions, is as I have not explained well, is a mirror of 6, for 12. The 11 dimensions of string theory, is in my opinion, far to complex and not required.
I must go for now, but good luck on your exploration of the universe.
Your insight that speed and more importantly acceleration are key's to understand the nature of things, is good.
You are right to consider spin as a fundamental, for we must realize that spin and even vibration (as a sine wave and rotation are closely related ) are motion and acceleration, without linear movement per say. Motion in place. Indeed, starships of the future may move, without moving, without any speed as we currently understand with rockets and cars. To the observer watching such a starship, it would just disappear only to reappear to some other observer in some far off location.
That is we can have acceleration and "movement" through a higher dimension ( 5th or 6th ), which appears to violate the speed of light in lower dimensions, as we have mass which was in one place and then another, faster than light could traverse the same distance, linearly through space.
I wish I could better explain the number of dimensions, but do not have time right now. To make things easier, just realize at most you need 6 dimensions, with a 7th dimension which is essentially void. So you only need to really comprehend 2 more dimensions besides the 4 of which you are familiar. And as we discussed the 5th is related to mass. So really only 1 dimension is missing. The concept of 11 dimensions, is as I have not explained well, is a mirror of 6, for 12. The 11 dimensions of string theory, is in my opinion, far to complex and not required.
I must go for now, but good luck on your exploration of the universe.
Thanks,
Grant
Grant
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